Friday, October 11, 2013

Question #1 - The Good & the Bad

a. Using at least one specific example, how was “sin” treated within this film? Was it glamorized/glorified, or did it receive more of a biblical treatment (redemption, justice, mercy, grace, forgiveness, reconciliation, resolution, etc. etc.) Try to use different examples than the ones mentioned in previous posts. Feel free to disagree with other peoples’ ideas.

b. God says we should put nothing “worthless” in front of our eyes. What is good, excellent, redemptive about this film? What was worthwhile? Was anything worthless about it? Can you wholeheartedly recommend this film? To anyone? A pastor? A friend? A sibling? Teacher? Why? Why not? Who would this film NOT be appropriate for and why? Biblically explain and draw your conclusions.

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  1. a.) The dominant sin(s) that I saw in this movie had a relation to death, so my specific sin that I’ll be talking about is killing. Looking at how this sin is used in the movie, I noticed that the two main heroes, Inigo Montoya and Wesley, had different views on killing. Throughout the movie, Montoya’s goal is to avenge his father, giving justice to satisfy his own ends. When he tells Wesley his backstory, he says his memorable quote, “My name is Inigo Montoya, you killed my father, prepare to die” almost as if it will do good or give satisfaction. Montoya also repeatedly says this after he is stabbed in the fight with his father’s killer, giving him strength. The quote gets repeated so much that I thought it seemed to glorify avenging a death by killing again. Wesley, on the other hand, shows mercy by sparing the lives of most of the people he fought with, even if they kidnapped Buttercup or planned to kill her. He showed the mercy given to him by the old Dread Pirate Robert, and I think he realized during that time that death is not the answer.
    b.) The Princess Bride’s main message was about love, true love. Christians can connect true love to God’s love because God loves us so much, and his love endures forever. He sent His one and only son down to Earth to die for our sins. Now THAT is true love, no matter what we do, if we repent in the end, God will accept us. The problem is, religion isn’t mentioned at all and I bet that the directors weren’t even thinking about that, so everyone else thinks it is just a romantic comedy for little girls. I cannot see any other connections with Christianity, so in God’s eyes the movie is just a time filler. Watching it gives no benefit to a Christian’s faith. Yes, it is funny and ingenious, but not that worthwhile for a Christian’s faith. I would recommend this film to almost anyone, but for a family movie night type event. I also realize that very young children or sensitive ones should not watch it though, because there is blood, and then there is The Machine. I found The Machine scenes eerily creepy, but I’m sure some sensitive child could take it the wrong way and get freaked out. To sum it all up, The Princess Bride is a good movie, but with little Christian value and I think it is right on the brink of being worthwhile and being a time-waster.

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    1. i agree with lauren with the main idea was death and also love it was really good and i agree with it completely it was really good and it was well written

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    2. I too, also agree with you that the main idea was death and love. You made it clear and descriptive.

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  2. Lauren, I agree with everything you said. I think you could also connect Montoya wanting to avenge his father to the bible verse Romans 12:19-20. Montoya is set to kill the man who murdered his father. So, when Montoya finds and chases after his father's killer, there is only one thought in his mind. "My name is Montoya, you killed my father, prepare to die." Never would he of thought to stop and offer the killer a drink or food, or shelter. He's not thinking, God will handle this, and vengeance is his. Romans 12:19-20 says exactly that! We should be kind to our enemy and overcome good with evil. Vengeance is God's, we should leave them to the wrath of God. Meanwhile, while we are being kind to our enemy, it will make the enemy frustrated that were not "shaken". The Bible describes it as, "for by doing so you will heap burning coals on his head."

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  3. A) Throughout the movie, they glorify and demote the sin in it. Like Lauren said, they glorify it by having Inigo Monoya be obsessed with killing the six fingered man who killed his father. And as izzie Baxter pointed out, God specifically says to leave revenge to him. In so many of todays movies and games, we promote revenge. Whether it be through an in game achievement or the goal of the movie. But they also demote killing through Wesley's actions as Lauren also states. The only person Wesley actually kills in the movie is the trickster/smart guy that kidnaps Princess Buttercup and has the game of wits with Wesley. They basically state several times that Wesley is one of the smarter people in the land and we almost always finds a way to not kill his opponent.
    B) I do agree with Lauren that the directors did not have any ideas in mind to directly promote Christianity, but they came really close to it. And going off of what Issie ( sorry if i am not spelling your name right) said, God says in many, many verses of the Bible that revenge is his and that our job is to turn the other cheek. Yes the Bible says "an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth" but God does NOT mean for us to enact our own revenge. So darn often do we idiot humans misinterpret Gods word and use it for our own selfish uses. The pharisees for example used it to create their own laws "based" off of scripture but in reality it just gave them power and wealth. The Crusades, were all called in an act of "holy" war. God is not confined to objects as we are. He is omnipresent.

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  4. A) Throughout The Princess Bride, sin was both glorified and looked down upon. Sin was handled in different ways and sometimes not always biblical. One sin that I think was most glorified was how Inigo Montoya wanted to get revenge and kill the six-fingered man. It was something that, throughout most of the film, he looked forward to doing so that he could satisfy himself and also his father who had been murdered by the six-fingered man. I think that this sin was glorified because when Inigo did finally kill the man, it was a celebration for himself. However, God says not to murder, so this sin is not something to celebrate.
    B) I thought that this movie, while sometimes glorifying sin, did come with a very good message. I can't wholeheartedly recommend this film because it is not perfect. It was not made by Christian directors, but this doesn't necessarily mean that it didn't have any redemptive themes in it. When Wesley spared the lives of almost all the men he fought with, he showed a lot of mercy. This reflects what God means when he tells us to "turn the other cheek". However, I still don't believe that I could recommend this film to everyone. Some people, who maybe don't completely understand how to pull out the biblical aspects of movies, may not be able to see that killing shouldn't be glorified. But I do think that I could recommend this film to most people.

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    1. To R. Strothkamp
      I agree. When I looked at Wesley fighting the kidnappers I saw justice, but you're right; he does show a lot of mercy. And also I think you're right when saying that not all people would be able to pull out the Christian themes in this movie.

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    2. To I. Clawson
      That when Wesley was fighting the kidnappers. I did not see Godly justice I saw human justice, because from a christian world view Justice is God's punishment on the person for what they have done. Justice is not carried out by humans: killing, murdering, revenge, and other punishments/deaths on others. But I do agree with you on the mercy, because if there wasn't and he did human justice he would have killed Inigo and the giant.

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  5. To Lauren Willis:
    I loved what you wrote on this topic. You made some important points that I hadn't even thought of. I hadn't thought of how Wesley was a good example of mercy, how he never killed any of the men he fought with. I also agreed with what you said about the main theme of the movie being true love, and how God is our true love. He showed his ultimate love for us when he sent His son down to save us from our sins. John 3:16 well describes the amount of love God has for us. Although, I don't totally agree with what you said about there being no benefits for a Christian in the movie. I thought that it did show many good examples of mercy and even though it wasn't produced by
    Christians, there were still things relating to being a good Christian that you could pull out of this movie.

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  6. A) I think some of the sins were delt with biblically and others were glorified. The kidnapping was both. The man with the sword was knocked out (justice); the giant also got knocked out (justice); the smart man got poisoned and died. The man in black was shown mercy when Buttercup found out he was her farm boy. Though the prince still did show him justice by taking him to the dungeon where he was tortured. The murder because of the revenge the sword man sought was glorified though.
    B) I think it was good because it showed how the corrupt men were punished. It also redeemed the castle because the destructive leaders were dethroned for the most part. I think it was worthwhile because it shows u to stay strong in your faith (in the movie have faith in the man in black, us have faith in God). I don't think anything was worthless because everything was done for a reason. I feel I can recommend this to anyone because I think people can relate to it in a way and see how important it is to have faith.

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    1. To Izzi Clawson:
      Good thinking Izzi! I like your thoughts, especially the ones that answer the second question. I just cannot see how the events of the kidnapping are justice though. I thought they were dueling for Buttercup, and justice is being just in wrongdoing. What are are they doing wrong, when each side wants Buttercup? I understand it is kidnapping, but the masked man is not the law. The Prince is better suited to make the judgements, not him, so is it justice? And since the masked man is Wesley, couldn't him fighting be considered as vengeance too?

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    2. i do not agree with that some of the sins were delt with biblically and the giant was not delt with justice he did nothing wrong.

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    3. What about Vizzini? I thought he got justice because he was hired by Humperdink and accepted the job to start a war that potentially would kill tens of thousands just for some money. I think it was dealt with Biblically, as he received justice. The comment on our last test said,"No one deserves to die." We were required to see what was wrong with it. The correct answer if you remember was that everyone deserves to die because we are all sinners. The giant and Inigo were paid to start a war by Vezzini, and thus received mercy when they were only knocked out.

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    4. To Sam Dare:
      I don't think Wesley knew Vizzini and his group were hired by Humperdink. And why would Fezzik and Inigo be less guilty? All three of them worked together to kidnap Buttercup! You said we all deserve to die because of sin, so why didn't Wesley kill the other two? Besides, it seemed like the only way to get Buttercup was to kill Vizzini, since he was holding a dagger to her throat.

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    5. That's what I mean. Vizzini's death was only to move the story along and thus glorified.

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    6. To a.lindgren:
      I agree with the first thing you said, but the giant did do something wrong, he tried to kill Westley.

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  7. A.) I agree with you guys mostly here, but I find it hard to see what is treated in Biblical fashion. The sin is glorified during the whole film really, especially when the witches are called upon to raise Westley from being "mostly dead." The film hinges on it, and it is made out to be a very humorous sin. As christians we know this is Biblically wrong because God is supposed to do miracles, and witches and presataanic things can but are given power by the devil. It is wrong to go to evil let alone, but here they do it for a bad cause, raise this man up to kill the prince. It was glorified here obviously.

    B.) The love in this film is pure and a good example of love like the kind we are shown by Christ. Worthless in the dictionary is described as having no real value or use. I think all the vengeance, murder, and trickery by Westley and his band of friends is somewhat worthless. I would recommend this film to everyone except someone I have recently started teaching the Bible to, because they might think it is okay to go to an evildoer for help sinning, to murder, and to avenge someone's death. If I told them to watch this, they might misunderstand and think it is all okay according to God.

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    1. I do not think it is worthless either. However, is the love shown by Buttercup and Westley really a good example of the love shown by Christ? It is quite different . . .

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    2. Yes, my bad. I was quite mistaken. Their love is pure and true, like God's love is to us. However, 1 John 4:19 says,"We love because he loved us." I think this is what I was getting at, but I didn't think it through enough. As
      non-christians, these two can not love as Christ loved us. They love each other at the very most that either of them can love, but not like God loves us.

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    3. I meant also that all christians can love purely at times because of the holy spirit, as Miss Janssen's first devotion was about, but God loves us with all the fruits of the spirit at all times.

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  8. A-Humperdinck lusts for buttercup and that's why he chooses her to be his wife. If he had respected the fact that she didn't love him almost all of the conflict in this movie could have been avoided. It wasn't glamorized, and was dealt with in a biblical way. Wesley departed from his job to rescue her from the kidnappers, But like Lauren said, it is almost vengeance.
    B-Like others have said, this film promoted revenge, but it has positive messages of true love and loyalty. This would not be appropriate to show to younger children because they may not know that revenge is meant for God to have, not us. It also has 1 use of a curse word which isn't something I would want my children learning at a young age.

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    1. To further your point, his job as a pirate was cruel to begin with. It is also glorified during the movie. Proverbs 10:2 says,"Treasures gained by wickedness do not profit." This means that piracy is worthless and God's eyes. Saying Wesley probably made a fortune off of other people's things when he sold them, it is a bad sin. Lying, stealing, and blaming the murder on his crew when he ordered it himself are all terrible sins. This is not his first murder of someone like Vizzini for him, even though he never killed someone himself according to him. Stealing the princess is what he does for a living - he preys on travelers' and tourists as a pirate. Oh, and lying. A pirate usually deceives the ships by raising a British flag so that the other ship thinks they mean no harm. Then the pirates raise the jolly roger and attack the other ship, leave little to no survivors, occasionally steal their ship, usually take weapons, riches and food so the sailors they let live die of starvation or other causes.

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  9. when the prince killed him the princes followers went along with him and almost were proud of him for doing it, even though some of the characters were bad buttercup stayed herself she said loyal. no non of it was worthless yes i can because it was a good film.

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    1. I am so confused by your statement. Can you please explain?

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    2. james 4:6-but he gives more grace. therefore it says God oppesses the proud, but gives grace to humble.


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  10. A) Prince Humperdink wants to kill Westly so he can marry Buttercup. It is not being glorified because he is the bad guy and he is not using killing Westly for anything good, he is just killing him to force a girl to marry him. But at the same time if he didnt want to kill Westly then the story would not go on and it would have been over quickly

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  11. B) I think that when Buttercup told the prince to let westly go if she marries him, she was sacrificing herself too save him and when westly saved her it was like she was redemed.

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  12. A) In this movie sin was a very big problem and was scattered all over the movie. In the beginning Humperdinck took Buttercup as his bride even though she did not love him. And then She was kidnapped by people That Humperdinck had hired so he could start a war with the Sworn enemy of Floren, Gilder. This means that Humperdinck didn't really love Buttercup he just wants to start a war and to eventually rule the world.
    B) This movie Really was fun to watch but it did not have a lot of redemption. The movie was overall worth my time to watch again. I could wholeheartedly recommend this movie to anybody and would feel it is appropriate for anybody to watch. The bible says not to put anything worthless in front of our eyes but this movie has a good plot and the sin is very much at the surface.

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    1. I disagree with Conner that Humperdink hired the men to kidnap her, the giant and his group did it on their own and they were the ones who wanted to start a war between the two places so it wouldn't be blamed on him.

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    2. This sounds more like you are agreeing with him then disagreeing when you said that he didn't hire them so it wouldn't be blamed on him. This is does not make sense because he couldn't hire them so he couldn't be blamed on him. Also I think he did hire them and didn’t. Because if he hadn’t hired them then it makes sense to go after his bride to be. Also if this is so then how did he know to go to that one cliff he may have been able to follow their tracks back to the boat, but not to a shore on a whole different country across an ocean. Finally how would he have known that there would be a cliff to scale, and have the necessary rope to get up there, because he would have been in a rush to save her to look good so he wouldn’t have packed the necessary rope. Then from there he could have tracked them, etc.
      Then again if he had hired them then it would make sense he would go to that one cliff, have enough rope to get up, and been able to determine what they would do to look like a hero. But if that is the case then why would he be in such a rush if he they were going to kill her anyway, and he would kill her too. If I had hired them I would have delayed as much as possible so I couldn’t be caught. Then I would go to that one cliff, etc. Then be all shocked, and be thinking yes this all worked out perfectly.
      Finally, in the movie it never comes out and says exactly if they were hired or not you just have to make an assumption on if he did or didn’t.

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    3. The movie states that Humperdink had hired them I believe. When they are searching for the princess.

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    4. Are you sure it was worth your time? If it didn't have any redemptive themes within it, why would you recommend it to a pastor? This isn't about if it is a funny movie; it is about seeing the relevance of movies. Seeing sin won't help you; you need to acknowledge that it is bad and tell yourself how to fix it within your own life.

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    5. To C. Evans:
      Would you recommend for kids 3 and up to watch it? When you say you recommend anyone, exactly who do you mean?

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  13. A. I agree with Conner that Humperdinck chose the grieving Buttercup (she thinks Westley has been killed by the Dread Pirate Robert) to win the favor of the common people and then hired thieves to kidnap and murder her. All of this was to have an excuse to start a war with his enemy, the King of Gilder. Although these sins are plenty (deceit, murder, war), the foundation of his future defeat is his arrogance. The outcome of his sin/arrogance fits with the Biblical treatment of it as according to Proverbs 11:2 “When pride comes, then comes disgrace, but with humility comes wisdom.” and Proverbs 16:18 “Pride goes before destruction, a haughty spirit before a fall.”
    B. This movie was worth watching because it had a lot of great themes for discussion: Heroism, revenge, pride, cowardice, true love, faithfulness, forgiveness, and teamwork. It talked about true love between Buttercup and Westley. I like how he wore a mask, because it showed that we should not look on the outward appearance, but on the heart. Also, Westley’s attitude of service (Galations 5:13 …serve one another in love) wins over Buttercup’s heart. I think overall the movie is a wholesome, fun comedy/adventure. It is an unconventional fairy tale with some great catch-phrases: “As you wish.” It was different watching it for a second time thinking about the sin, themes, and message it's portraying. I would recommend this movie to anyone who loves adventure with a story plot we can learn from with a little reflection. It's full of temptation in making the right decision, just like we might go through in life. Although this movie has a fun plot, the viewer needs to be old enough to understand that killing and fighting is not OK. I would not recommend it for a young child; at a young age, we tend to imitate anything on TV. Some kids may think that if you have a grudge against someone, you should hurt them because they deserve it. Romans 12:19 Beloved, never avenge yourselves, but leave it to the wrath of God, for it is written, "Vengeance is mine, I will repay," says the Lord. This verse is saying that you should not hold a grudge against someone, because God will deal with that person. Other than that, this movie is something that anyone would enjoy.

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    1. Really like how you talked about how Wesley wore a mask and it proved for us to look inside, not outside.

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    2. C.S. Lewis intentionally makes an allegory in many of his books. He is using story to convey Christian truth. Since the Princess Bride was not written by a believer how can there be so many parallels with the Bible?

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    3. I like your thoughts Marissa. Especially on the second question I agree with you through the whole answer.

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    4. To J. Ritzema

      It is well-known that William Goldman, the author/screenwriter, is Jewish. Therefore, it is not hard to understand the Old Testament connections, however, it is impossible to know if he intended the parallels to the New Testament without direct commentary from Mr. Goldman. There is some thought that his editor had something to do with that, or perhaps the link is the tradition of the Western fairy-tale which traditionally had many Christian themes. C.S. Lewis also did not intend for Narnia to be read as a strict allegory, but rather a more loose interpretation. He did not intend for there to be a strict one-to-one correspondence with characters or situations, but rather for his stories to stand on their own while hinting at higher, symbolic spiritual meanings through parallels and metaphors. It would be interesting to know how much influence Goldman’s editor had, and also what Mr. Goldman would say to this question. Although I do not have any reason to believe so, it would be great to find out that he is a Messianic Jew.

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    5. Marisa- I really like what you said! I am, although, a little conflicted about what you said about the mask. The mask, I think, made you judge him by the outside more. He was dressed in all black along with the mask, so immediately you know that there will be some kind of conflict. Just like if you saw someone walk into a store dressed in all black, you would probably be a little suspicious. Overall though, I really liked and agreed with your thoughts.

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    6. The story with Humperdinck and Buttercup is like the story or David and Bathsheba. He wanted buttercup when Wesley was 'dead'. It reflects the story with a very different ending though, because the 'good guy' wins.

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  14. a. True love is a major theme of this movie. Although, what Westley and Buttercup have is not how true love is explained in the bible. True love is the love God has foe us. And when we're in any kind of relationship, we need to include God. I think especially in a girlfriend/boyfriend relationship, people tend to idolize their partner and forget about God completely (if they know God at all). In the movie, I could definitely tell that Buttercup idolized Westley, and that isn't true love. Girls watching this movie will see this and a lot of times want this relationship. They want a guy who seems perfect so they can idolize them, even if they don't realize it. Now, Buttercup and Westley loved each other, and loving isn't a bad thing, of course. But they don't have God in their lives, so they don't have that foundation for their relationship. "We love because he first loved us." - 1 John 4:19

    b. The Princess Bride, like any other movie, punishes the bad guy. Although, Westley did not seek revenge on Prince Humperdinck. He could've killed him, but instead, he just tied him up in a chair. Although I don't think Westley thought of it as allowing God to give the prince justice Himself, that's what he did. That's what we need to do. Seeing this happen is a good thing, because the audience can see that the bad guy doesn't need to be killed (by revenge) in the end. He just deserves justice - God's justice. Revenge is in this movie though, and that is a bad aspect of it. Inigo Montoya wanted revenge for 20 years, and when he finally did kill the man that killed his father, he was looked at as a hero. That isn't good for people to see, because they think that heroism is all about winning. (And I'm not talking about the superheroes who help people.) The thing is, only God should give justice to people, for he is the only Hero.

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  15. To A. Cockerham
    I definitely agree we have true love for God in the bible not for man. We do idolize others when we are in a relationship with them. It is ok to be in a relationship with someone but we have to be able to put God First all the time. Also Wesley did knot punish Humperdinck but i agree that i don't think he was intentionally leaving it up to God

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  16. A) There were definitely many sins within this film. Many resulted in justice, but sometimes that justice wasn't right because it was done by another human. For instance, Vizzini said he was the smartest person ever and that he couldn't lose; his sin was pride. In Proverbs 16:18, it says, "Pride goes before destruction; a haughty spirit before a fall." The problem is that the destruction is meant to be by God's hand, not another mortal. Westley killed him, and it was certain that Vizzini has no way of living. That could pretty much be described as manslaughter. After Vizzini dies, Buttercup and him celebrate over his death (this does not mean they danced; they were just thankful he was gone). Westley felt what Westley he did was right, but it wasn't.

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  17. I agree, that there was many sins in this film. It seemed like almost the whole film had sin every time.

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  18. A. I agree with Rachel that the movie's sins were both glorified and looked down upon. The two sins I think were the biggest were when Humperdinck tried to kill Westley for Buttercup and when Inigo killed the six-fingered man. Both of these sins were not dealt with biblical. Even when Inigo killed the six-fingered man I don't think that's considered justice, that's revenge.

    B. What's good about this movie is that good always beats evil just like God can and it teaches you to look on the inside and not judge from the outside. Yes, I think it was worthwhile my time. There was revenge, pride, and jealousy. Any wise enough kid could pick off of that and start trying do the stuff in the movie. The machine could scare some of the really young children like in age of four because of how good the actor played it. It may also trick them by saying true love is all you'll ever need and also when Inigo used his "father " to help him when really it was luck. The kids should know that the Lord all you'll ever need. I'd recommend this to anyone above the age of six because of some of the violence and the curse word. The violence can influence and they might start going around saying the curse word. This movie can give you a good little laugh if you enjoy cute comedies.

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  19. I do think the movie can be applied to God in some ways, but not all. The sin was not always necessary. Most of the time it was inserted as comical relief. No one person did anything perfect, but there is still that feeling of redemption because the bad guy lost. Westley dying can kind of be like Jesus dying for us, because he at first died, but came back to remove evil. I could recommend this to anyone, because there are some good themes within it, but it also was filled with too many sins. That is why I would say to not make this a role model for your life because it is not close enough to the way Jesus did, our real role model.

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  20. A) When Inigo killed the 6 fingered man, I think that his sin was glorified because he spent his whole life waiting for this moment and the audience was on Inigo's side. It was also the only good part of the movie in my opinion
    B) A good part of the movie is when Wesley rescues Buttercup. It was worthwhile because thats what the whole movie was about and their love was reunited. In Genesis, God said it is not good for man to be alone and Wesley has Buttercup now so hes not alone anymore.

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  21. To A. Turner

    I agree with you the sins were looked down upon and glorified all at the same time. Humperdinck was the biggest offender he had many sins that definitely was a major plot point that would have completely changed the movie if it had not happened. In the end you are right the good beat the evil and left the evil with nothing. It was worth while and I could recommend it to anybody.

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  22. A big sin in the movie is forced marriage. Not only was it an arranged marriage, but it was Prince Humperdinck himself that arranged it. I know in some cultures and countries, there is arranged marriage, and I don't know what the reason behind that is. The fact that the prince forced Buttercup to marry him, not to mention the fact that he was going to kill her, blame another country so he could go to war and gain power, which is all part of his horrible plan, just shows how prideful he is. Pride is the real sin in it, because it's behind forced marriage. But forced marriage isn't. There is no love involved, and one of the main things that people think of when they hear the word "marriage" is love. It's hard for me to figure out exactly what God thinks about force marriage, because in bible times cultures, all marriage was arranged. I believe it is a sin, though, because you should love the person you spend the rest of your life with.

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  23. One of the sins that I found was lying. Throughout the whole entire movie, people would continue to lie. They didn't really say that lying was good or bad. However, from a younger child's perspective watching this movie, they might think that lying could save your life. So, in a sense it was kind of glamorized. Also, I do believe that it was necessary to include for the movie. It added to the tension. This sin was not dealt with biblically, it wasn't even solved. The characters just kept doing it. Never thinking, oh, I should repent and fix what I have done.

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  24. I think that the major sin in the story was murder, driven by love. Inigo was determined to murder the six fingered man, because he wanted revenge. He obviously loved his father and so he wanted to murder the man for what he had done. Wesley poisoned Vizzini because he knew that he was a danger to Buttercup. Even though he killed Vizzini to protect Buttercup, I still don't think it was right. Sure, he was killing him to protect Buttercup and himself but there could have probably been other ways to deal with Vizzini's besides killing him. Of course, murder is stated as a sin in the Ten Commandments. I also agree with Abby in the fact that forced marriage was the root of most of the problems, but I also am not sure if that is a sin or not.

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  25. Also, a verse I found is Leviticus 19:11. "You shall not steal, you shall not deal falsely, you shall not lie to each other." This specifically tells us that God does NOT want us to lie.

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